tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post9165573850698451029..comments2024-03-29T07:29:32.480+00:00Comments on bellaphon: TOTD 23bellaphonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09659024295552292245noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-68791053060131111802009-06-17T19:00:08.464+01:002009-06-17T19:00:08.464+01:00MML- You're Occidental and I'm accidental....MML- You're Occidental and I'm accidental. And please no South East Asian; peeps will start quizzing me with questions like are you from Manila or does it snow where you come from?<br /><br />CB- I hate PC, it only breeds more contempt or hatred in this country! If you're what you described yourself as, then hey sis!bellaphonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09659024295552292245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-84792569603341650162009-06-17T12:35:33.470+01:002009-06-17T12:35:33.470+01:00LoL! I like to refer to myself as yellow - accordi...LoL! I like to refer to myself as yellow - according to one of my workmates, it's not very politically correct...<br /><br />...I say it's fine! :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-29479367448272800002009-06-15T23:42:08.847+01:002009-06-15T23:42:08.847+01:00Oh I missed this debate. I guess I was cooking. Lu...Oh I missed this debate. I guess I was cooking. Lunch at Dehesa was divine. <br />I think the word Oriental is gorgeous and we are Occidental. If I'm in Asia, I refer to myself as Western.<br />I think using the word Asian probably is a bit confusing in Britain. <br />Have we come up with an acceptable word?<br />Er..Southeast Asian? It's a bit complicated.kerstinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11710623816362851677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-72361870904829144162009-06-14T17:50:25.696+01:002009-06-14T17:50:25.696+01:00Meemalee- Blowout lunch with MsMarmite at Dehesa t...Meemalee- Blowout lunch with MsMarmite at Dehesa today. Uploading pics later. No fans turned up ;(bellaphonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09659024295552292245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-87969675236110857872009-06-13T23:32:57.781+01:002009-06-13T23:32:57.781+01:00You meant actual live audience in person?
I'd...You meant actual live audience in person?<br /><br />I'd love to, but I'll have to take a rain-check - I'm spending the day with my parents tomorrow and taking them to see the new Terminator - no lie :)<br /><br />Enjoy Dehesa and eat loads on my behalf ...meemaleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252248464524701128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-65503764903184758112009-06-13T23:16:18.304+01:002009-06-13T23:16:18.304+01:00meemalee- No probs, bring thirty quid with you as ...meemalee- No probs, bring thirty quid with you as Dehesa is not exactly cheap. I agree with you on the verification procedure, bloody annoying!bellaphonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09659024295552292245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-28942044608966837372009-06-13T22:32:02.123+01:002009-06-13T22:32:02.123+01:00Please can we see your mug face?
As for whether I...Please can we see your mug face?<br /><br />As for whether I'm a lawyer or not - no comment ...<br /><br />By the way, I think your Word Verification Bot hates me. <br /><br />The past three times I've tried to comment it gave the words "scrote", "phlegm" and "whines".meemaleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252248464524701128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-33018929417727706872009-06-13T20:45:23.489+01:002009-06-13T20:45:23.489+01:00Helen- please feel free to use the word Oriental a...Helen- please feel free to use the word Oriental as far I'm concerned. You see if you said bellaphon was Asian, which I am and I'm not. As for the latter, most members of the British public would then expect my surname to revolve around the likes of either a Ghosh or Ali; well it isn't. I'm very Oriental as well as a happy and shiny Londoner. Thanks.<br /><br />meemalee- that makes two us. Beautifully clarified, thank you. Are you a lawyer? <br /><br />This is a food blog, I'm off to Dehesa for lunch tomorrow. If you wish to see my mug face then I might grant you an audience.bellaphonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09659024295552292245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-59105608612703862552009-06-13T17:24:28.925+01:002009-06-13T17:24:28.925+01:00Helen, I think it's more complicated than that...Helen, I think it's more complicated than that - it's historical - to do with migration. <br /><br />In the US, Asian means Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese people etc, because those are the dominant Asian peoples over there.<br /><br />And in the UK, Asian means Indian, Bengali, Pakistani people etc, because those are the dominant Asian peoples over here.<br /><br />So if you described a stranger as Asian in the UK, 99% of listeners would assume you meant someone from Indian, Bengali, Pakistani people.<br /><br />So as a Brit, I identify myself as Oriental - personally I think the word is beautiful.<br /><br />And if you called me Asian, I would think you were mad or from abroad.<br /><br />Weirdly though, Asian as applied to <b>food</b> in either the US or the UK means Japanese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese.meemaleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252248464524701128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-18679756578529189762009-06-13T14:56:28.300+01:002009-06-13T14:56:28.300+01:00Yeah I was in the conversation on Twitter yesterda...Yeah I was in the conversation on Twitter yesterday. I have used the term 'Oriental' in a blog post. I'd heard the term was widely used in the UK when I studied such things as part of my masters and also I'd seen other bloggers using it so I felt bad yesterday when foodieguide and supercharz said they found it offensive. I had absolutely no idea and I'll use the term 'Asian' from now on. From a fellow Londoner :)Helenhttp://www.helengraves.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-61084624250865026282009-06-13T10:06:12.961+01:002009-06-13T10:06:12.961+01:00Tehbus- Hey, thanks for stopping by. It takes an a...Tehbus- Hey, thanks for stopping by. It takes an awful lot to offend me, just don't nag on me with my return to the indurate habit of smoking!<br /><br />This is a food blog, Dehesa?bellaphonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09659024295552292245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-57310102061036084812009-06-13T08:51:40.843+01:002009-06-13T08:51:40.843+01:00Im not proud but I think I kicked this off through...Im not proud but I think I kicked this off through an inadvertent mention on Twitter. I think the term Oriental is considered derogatory in the US but I personally dont find it insulting in any way. To me, it specifies a region within a very large continent, very much like "Scandinavia" specifies a region in Europe. Good to hear your thoughts on this. Hope I didn'y annoy too many people!tehbushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16593283607297429793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-87250573204992057982009-06-13T07:16:43.000+01:002009-06-13T07:16:43.000+01:00MML- Asians in the UK stipulate and has been accep...MML- Asians in the UK stipulate and has been accepted as describing the good folks from or of (origin) the "Indian Subcontinent". Both Andy Pipkin and Vicky Pollard couldn’t tell any differences between a Chinese, Japanese, Korean or perhaps even a Kazakh person; so as far as this group is concerned, the term Oriental is appropriate. And yes there are more ‘Asians’ than ‘Orientals’ residing here in the UK, obviously someone in the Home Office or the press decided it was a good idea (years ago) to rewrite the word Asian. However outside Blighty, all Orientals are Asians and the people of the Indian Subcontinent are somewhat more clearly defined as either Indian, Paskistani, Bangladeshi, etc. The person who sent me the mail wished to remain anonymous and alerted me to Twitter.<br /><br />This is a food blog, Dehesa?bellaphonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09659024295552292245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701357792339034077.post-8462553122124936972009-06-12T23:44:05.333+01:002009-06-12T23:44:05.333+01:00Remember we had that discussion. I was calling ...Remember we had that discussion. I was calling 'oriental' people Asian. You said I should use the term 'oriental'. <br />On Twitter I see that some don't like that term...foodieguide for instance.<br />I suppose Asian in Britain often means Indian sub-continent. <br />I used the term Asian because I learnt that in the States where they used to have less people from the Indian sub-continent.<br />All I know is that they like their food!<br /><br />Anyway...who sent you the email?kerstinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11710623816362851677noreply@blogger.com